[GAINPOWER.org: Jobs That Are Left] News about Jobs That Are Left

March 1, 2023

[GAINPOWER.org: Jobs That Are Left] News about Jobs That Are Left


Substack is our new and improved home for Jobs That Are Left. Longtime JTAL members and newer ones probably noticed that our google group was down for some time and has been spotty since it came back the past week. Google, with no warning and really for no justifiable cause, shut us down for over three weeks. This was not the first time this had happened. We have not received any communications from them before, during, or since. Just after posting the  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
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Substack is our new and improved home for Jobs That Are Left.

Longtime JTAL members and newer ones probably noticed that our google group was down for some time and has been spotty since it came back the past week. Google, with no warning and really for no justifiable cause, shut us down for over three weeks. This was not the first time this had happened. We have not received any communications from them before, during, or since. Just after posting the Twitter thread (written out below) - it mysteriously came back. We have had some challenges sharing some posts since then. 

Please know the GAIN Power career center has not had problems. It remains consistent and fully functional. Anyone can register there and view jobs all the time. Further, when logged in, you can create daily or weekly job alerts. These can be customized for all jobs based on various criteria, including keywords, location, and organization type. You can also add your resume and apply directly for many jobs. Employers should note jobs are widely distributed from there to many other sites as well. 

While working on getting back to the google group, we researched alternative solutions.

We wanted some of the same features as this listserv and community that JTAL has offered. We decided to test and share posts on a new substack newsletter we launched with the same name as: JobThatAreLeft.org. So far, we like some of its features and plan to post our jobs there. We'll keep sharing some to the old google group JTAL, but we're really hoping folks join us on Substack or use our Career Center. We can't count on our google group for communications.

JTAL Post/Thread 2/23: 

Jobs That Are Left - aka #JTAL Update Many of you noticed that our popular listserv, "Jobs That Are left," was locked down by @Google a few weeks ago, preventing us from posting new jobs or people from joining.

  • Our job board and career center (https://careercenter.gainpower.org) are unaffected, - but we know thousands of folks (40K+!!) have loved and relied on getting job posts through JTAL. 

  • We had no notice, nor did we see any evidence or reports of spam/malware or malicious content, which is what @Google says is the explanation for banning it. We would be happy to remove an offending post if @google would tell us.

  • We've done everything we can to fix the google group problem. We've attempted to contact @google in many ways daily but have had zero replies from anyone associated with Google groups. So we looked for alternatives.

  • Jobs That Are Left was launched as a yahoo group by @cksieloff, founder of @woolfstrategy, in 2003. She migrated it to Google Groups in 2008, where it has lived since. 

  • Democratic GAIN managed it till we became GAIN Power in 2020.  We have managed it since then. We've made a few necessary changes to ensure posts comply with rules regarding job postings like disclosing salary, were relevant to our community, and synced with our career center, which syndicates more widely. 

  • Google groups have never been the best way to share our job posts. It's not searchable and limits exposure of positions to niche communities. Google has locked us out of the groups a few times before - and there are other problems with google groups - even when it does work. 

  • We're trying Subtack as an alternative - if folks like it and migrate - we'll keep it up. If the lockdown is lifted and folks prefer google groups  - we may go back. For now - we want to get the maximum reach for our employers while providing the most opportunities for talent. 

Let us know what you think. Comments are open here.

Career Center: add new jobs and resumes

Jobs That Are Left is a progressive jobs list managed by GAIN Power. We share jobs from our career center, events, news, and other partners activities. Go to GAINPower.org to build your profile, add your organization page, create and join groups, add events to our calendar, or post on the newsfeed as you would on other social platforms.

We are supported primarily by employers paid job posts in the career center and some events. We never charge job seekers for viewing jobs or our events. We use an honor system that lets small campaign and organization post jobs so that price is not a barrier to participation. If you have benefited from our work, we would appreciate your support by paying for a subscription so we can continue to provide these services free to all.

 
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